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- Info-Hams Digest Thu, 9 Jun 94 Volume 94 : Issue 644
-
- Today's Topics:
- ** QUESTION TO HTX-202 OWNERS **
- Boston Amateur Radio Club Web Page
- can u hlp with rpt ant questions? (2 msgs)
- EOSS-17 Recap (High Altitude Balloon Flight over Denver)
- FCC computers up!
- GAP Titan vs MFJ-1798 vs R-7 (?)
- Hallicrafters SX-28?
- Mass, RI and NH Field Day QTHs Wanted
- Singapore HAM Laws?
-
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-
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- (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams".
-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 19:56:02 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!csn!server!stortek.com!patrick_tatro@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ** QUESTION TO HTX-202 OWNERS **
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2t4im9$p4k@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> al372@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Merle Rutschke) writes:
- >From: al372@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Merle Rutschke)
- >Subject: ** QUESTION TO HTX-202 OWNERS **
- >Date: 8 Jun 1994 13:56:25 GMT
-
-
- >To HTX-202 owners (and others),
-
- > I have a 202 to which I occasionally hook up a power supply
- >(as described in the owner's manual). I even have the Micronta
- >12-volt regulated power supply that is recommended in the owner's
- >manual.
-
- > On high power the 202 warms up as I transmit (as expected). My
- >question is: Is the 202 supposed to warm up on low power also?
- >My reason for asking is because I have a friend who's HT (not
- >Radio Shack) warms up on high power but NOT on low power.
-
- >Is it normal for the HTX-202 to warm up on low power as well as
- >high power?
-
- Be sure you have your belt clip installed - Its part of your heat sink
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 08 Jun 1994 11:35:03 GMT
- From: yale.edu!noc.near.net!chaos.dac.neu.edu!chaos.dac!wy1z@yale.arpa
- Subject: Boston Amateur Radio Club Web Page
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Annoucing the creation of the Boston Amateur Radio Club World Wide Web
- home page.
-
- What is the World Wide Web? It is like the Internet, except consisting of
- information instead of networked computer systems. The Web consists of
- a variety of information all linked together, in no particular order, with
- "links" to other information.
-
- So, what is the address of the Boston Amateur Radio Club Web page?
- http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc.html
-
-
- This doesn't look like a normal telnet or ftp address. How do I connect?
- You need to use some new programs, possibly available on your system.
-
- The graphically oriented program, called Mosaic, is most preferable.
-
- The for non graphically-oriented users, you have a choice: www or lynx
-
- (www is a program which does stand for World Wide Web, but not to be
- confused with the Web itself :)
-
- To use either of these two command-line programs, you would type:
- lynx http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc.html for the connection,
- or similarly, for www...
- www http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc.html for the connection.
-
- If you have any questions, are completely confused, and/or want to know
- more, please don't hesitate to contact me at any of the addresses in my
- signature file, or call me at the Northeastern University radio club
- (local Boston area calls only, please): 617-373-4198
-
- 73,
- Scott
-
- --
- -----------------
- Scott Ehrlich, Amateur Radio Callsign: wy1z
- How to reach me: wy1z@neu.edu [Internet], wy1z@wa1phy.ma [Packet]
- Boston ARC ftp archives: ftp oak.oakland.edu /pub/hamradio
- Boston ARC Web page: http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc.html
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Jun 94 22:28:00 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!eniac.seas.upenn.edu!depolo@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: can u hlp with rpt ant questions?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2t5a70$lc9@network.ucsd.edu> brian@nothing.ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes:
- >I've heard that the most common failure is that the welds
- >break when the antenna is installed in a way that it flexes in the wind.
- >Ours that have been side-mounted on the tower have survived for more
- >than a decade.
-
- Repeated discussions with several manufacturers as well as personal
- experience have convinced me that this isn't a real problem but more
- or less an explanation people have come up with for why their antenna
- has failed. That's not to say that not using an upper support arm
- isn't necessary - it has the added benefit of preventing pattern
- distortion as the antenna flexes, and the reduced flexing can't hurt
- either.
-
- >They are constructed of copper tubing and rod which is spot-welded
- >together as alternating coaxial dipoles, cut to length to be resonant
- >at the tuned frequency. They aren't real broadband, and to lower their
- >frequency will typically take lengthening the elements, which is not
- >trivial to do.
-
- Not all of them use coaxial half-wave sections. Some manufacturers use
- series-fed 5/8 wave sections with phasing/matching coils. Antenna
- Specialists uses a J-pole-like feed at the bottom and 5/8 wave
- radiators.
-
- >I have been told (but never confirmed) that the result of using one of
- >these at a frequency below its designed freq is not only increased SWR
- >and lower radiation efficiency, but also that the resulting pattern
- >tends to tilt skyward. With the tall mountains we have around here,
- >we have often ordered the Stationmasters with a 5 degree downtilt in
- >the pattern to improve coverage of cities near the base of the mountains.
-
- As you go below the resonant frequency, the pattern tilts downward. Easy
- to remember - go lower in frequency, pattern goes lower. I have a
- couple of 450-460 SSM's that I use for receive-only sites - they work very
- well as they provide a slight amount of negative beamtilt, and at UHF,
- the bandwidth is pretty broad so receiving on the high end of 440 isn't
- a problem.
-
- --- Jeff
- --
- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
- Jeff DePolo WN3A Twisted Pair: (215) 337-7383H 387-3059W
- depolo@eniac.seas.upenn.edu RF: 443.800+ MHz 442.400+ MHz 24.150 GHz
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Jun 1994 19:14:34 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!eniac.seas.upenn.edu!depolo@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: can u hlp with rpt ant questions?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <9406081555.AA0286@smtp.UB.com> David_Bourque@UB.COM (David Bourque) writes:
- >We were given a Phelps-Dodge antenna. Freq tag removed. I know for a fact
- >that it was in service at 152Mhz. The hope was to retune this antenna for use
- >at 146Mhz. When asking around on the proper way to do this I was advised that
- >this antenna cannot be modified because the antenna is only 20 feet long.
- >These same people tell us we need one that is 22 feet long. Fact or fiction?
-
- There is no inherent way of retuning VHF StationMasters. The 152 MHz antenna
- you have can probably be somewhat usable on the ham band, but not at
- maximum performance. One trick to pulling highband VHF antennas down to 2m
- is to use aluminum or copper foil tape. You can make a ring out of regular
- aluminum foil, wrap it around the radome, and secure it with a rubber band.
- Then, while transmitting with low power (a watt or two), move the ring up
- and down the length of the radome to find a spot where SWR dips. Do the
- same thing again higher up the antenna with another ring. Then use foil
- tape in place of the rubberband-and-foil. This tuning-for-low-SWR-method
- doesn't guarantee anything about how good the pattern will be, but at
- least your PA won't complain.
-
- There are two versions of the VHF StationMaster. One is just called the
- StationMaster (SM), the other the SuperStationMaster (SSM). The regular SM
- has a rather narrow bandwidth, but works fine for 600 kHz spacing. The
- SSM has a wider bandwidth which is generally not needed for 2m amateur
- repeaters. Note that on UHF the terms SM and SSM more aptly describe
- the size of the antenna rather than the bandwidth.
-
- SM and SSM were both trademarks of Phelps-Dodge (that's why all the models
- begin with PD). What was Phelps-Dodge is now Celwave. SM and SSM are
- now Celwave trademarks, and they still use the PD nomenclature.
-
- >I've been offered yet another antenna, I'll have to pay for this one, that has
- >already been in service in the amateur band. The owner thinks the model
- number is PD-220. Cell Wave I believe.
-
- This is probably your best bet.
-
- >We've contacted a local distributor regarding the purchase of a new antenna.
- >Cell Wave PD-200. Big bucks. Distributor says this antenna is 21 feet long.
- >I'm also not sure I've got the model prefix correct.
- >
- >Now, what is the difference between the 200 and 220? Anyone know?
-
- One is probably the regular SM, the other the SSM. Don't have the catalog
- in front of me.
-
- Don't pay much attention to the lengths. Somebody might quote you the length
- in the catalog, which is usually the length at the lowest frequency
- available for the model (like 136 MHz), somebody else may give
- you the real length at your frequency of choice (like 146.76 MHz),
- somebody else may give you the length of just the radome and not the
- pipe, etc.
-
- On VHF, I'd just generally forget about getting a used commercial one and
- trying to reuse it. They aren't "tuneable" aside from gimmicks like
- the one described above. You can gut them and build your own collinear
- though. If you use RG8 or another coax with a relatively slow
- velocity factor, you can probably make it fit inside a commercial-band
- radome.
-
- Really old SM and SM-like antennas are filled with wax. Others are
- filled with foam. Getting them apart can be a real bear. Generally
- speaking, everything slides out the bottom of the radome. You'll
- need a torch to get the lightening spike off the top first - the antenna
- is connected to it.
-
- If your antenna is side-mounted, I'd suggest getting a Hustler G6 and
- using an upper anti-sway arm. The Hustler's are built very well and seem
- to hold up well in rough environs. Of course they're not in the same
- league as a StationMaster, but the different mechanical design approach
- may do better in your environment. Alternatively, think about a 4-bay
- instead of a stick.
-
- I had a couple of Diamond F718A's on one of our UHF repeaters on a mountain
- (well, what people around here call a mountain anyway), and after less
- than 2 years of use, they showed signs of wear. The Diamond's were
- more or less an experiement to see how well they worked. Electrically,
- they were pretty good, but mechanically, they can't compare to the
- Celwave PD455 that's up there now. You get what you pay for.
-
- --- Jeff
- --
- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
- Jeff DePolo WN3A Twisted Pair: (215) 337-7383H 387-3059W
- depolo@eniac.seas.upenn.edu RF: 443.800+ MHz 442.400+ MHz 24.150 GHz
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 17:52:47 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!cns!rickvg@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: EOSS-17 Recap (High Altitude Balloon Flight over Denver)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- --------------------------
- FLIGHT SYNOPSIS: EOSS 17
- --------------------------
-
- Date: June 4,1994
- Launch time: 16:00 UTC
- Launch site: Monument, Colorado
- Launch site Coordinates: Latitude 39 deg 02.67'N
- Longitude 104 deg 52.53'W
-
- Balloon Burst Altitude: 94,000 feet
-
- Balloon Burst Coordinates: Latitude 39 deg 08.22'N
- Longitude 104 deg 40.08'W
-
- Landing Site Coordinates: Latitude 39 deg 11.52'N
- Longitude 104 deg 25.99'W
-
-
- Ascent Rate: 550 fpm
- Descent Rate: 1113 fpm
-
-
- Payload Frequencies:
-
- Telemetry: 144.340 MHz
- ATV : 426.250 MHz
- Beacon : 147.555 MHz
-
- Synopsis:
-
- The flight of EOSS 17 was another triumph in the many successful launches
- for Edge of Space Sciences Inc. (EOSS). This flight's success was due to the
- tremendous teamwork of personnel at the ground station and out in the field.
-
- The flight started promptly at 16:00 UTC from the NAVSYS INC. facility in
- Monument Colorado. The weather was excellent.
-
- During the flight a barometric switch was tested. The purpose of the switch
- is to add a safety to the cut down circuit. The switch is designed to be
- open below and closed above a certain altitude. The experiment was deemed a
- success. The switch closed at 26,000 feet on ascent and opened on descent at
- 25,000 feet. This switch will be tested on future flights to determine the
- repeatability of the results.
-
- APRS performed perfectly during the flight. The spectators were treated to
- the "realtime" updates of the balloon's position.
-
- The ATV video was P-5 during most of the flight. We captured the bursting
- of the balloon, via the onboard ATV camera, on video tape. Dave Radomski,
- KT0H, video taped the balloon burst with a camcorder from his ground
- position out in the field. During the descent of the payload the ATV antenna
- was forcefully separated from its short coax lead and plummeted to the
- ground from about 70,000 feet; location unknown. We should have some more
- dramatic video to add to the EOSS library.
-
- The tracking and recovery team did another great job. During the descent
- phase of the flight at about 44,000 feet, Loran-C lost its lock and did not
- regain it for the remainder of the flight. From this point on, the ground
- station was unable to assist in determining the payload's location other
- than providing an RDF fix. Thanks to the expert assistance from our tracking
- and recovering team, the balloon's position was followed using the more
- traditional direction finding techniques we employ on every flight.
-
- The tracking and recovery team consisted of:
-
- Paul Ternlund WB3JZV (computerized triangulation)
- Marty Griffin WA0GEH (field coordinator/net control)
- Ed Boyer N0MHU air mobile
- Richard Shaw WB5YOE
- Tom Isenberg N0KSR
- Bob Ragain WB4ETT ----\
- Colleen Ragain N0QGH --- Family affair!
- Dawn Ragain N0QCW ----/
- Greg Burnett K0ELM
- Greg DeWit N0JMH
- Larry Cerney N0STZ
- Roger Smith N0LEQ
- Bill Andrus N0EUL
- Rick von Glahn N0KKZ (back at the ground station)
-
- EOSS would like to extend its sincere thanks to the members and regular
- users of the 146.970 MHz Pikes Peak FM Association's fantastic repeater.
- Having a repeater on a 14,000 foot tall tower (@8,000 above surrounding
- terrain) is a real help. Balloon flights really tie up the frequency and
- the patience of their regular users is greatly appreciated.
-
- Thanks to all the folks at NAVSYS for their great hospitality and the use of
- there facility, and to all the folks out in the field and all who helped set
- up and tear down the ground station.
-
- The original plan for this flight called for a test of the "Shuttle II"
- controller. However, unanticipated assistance from Murphy introduced a few
- problems and we had to abort that test. Shuttle II should be ready soon and
- we will announce its maiden flight when we have a firm schedule set.
-
- Brian/N0VSA
-
- N0VSA@W0GVT.#NECO.CO.NOAM
- brian.thomas@filebank.com
-
- forwarded to the internet by:
-
- 73 -- Rick
-
- ******************************************************************************
- * Rick von Glahn Edge of Space Sciences, Inc. *
- * rickvg@cscns.com - Internet (preferred) Promoting Science and Education *
- * N0KKZ@W0GVT.#NECO.CO.USA - packet radio through Amateur Radio and *
- * finger rickvg@cscns.com for EOSS info High Altitude Balloons *
- ******************************************************************************
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 08 Jun 1994 03:00:28 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!witch!doghouse!jsalemi@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: FCC computers up!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
- In article <1994Jun6.172049.19370@rsd.dl.nec.com>, Dave Rogers (dave@rsd.dl.nec.com) writes:
- >This is consistent with the behavior of all bureaucratic organizations.
- >The FCC maintains that they are under staffed. I can't comment on the
- >veracity of this statement. However, they just granted four _free_
- >Pioneer licenses to PCS (Personal Communications Services, cell phones
- >of the future) companies without even investigating the merits of the
- >companies' plans. Everyone else has to buy spectrum for this service.
- >They are expecting that you will write your congress person complain so
- >that they can get more budget. What are the ICBM coordinates for
- >Washington, DC anyway?
- >
-
- You can't blame the FCC for the Pioneer license situation; that's
- written into the law that governs the Pioneer licenses in the first
- place. So long as the companies meet the law, the FCC has to issue
- them the license, and free.
-
- If you want to lay blame, blame the Congress that created the law, not
- the FCC for following it.
-
- 73...joe
-
-
-
- ----------
- Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net
- Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Jun 1994 19:54:13 GMT
- From: lerc.nasa.gov!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!news.ysu.edu!yfn.ysu.edu!ap451@purdue.edu
- Subject: GAP Titan vs MFJ-1798 vs R-7 (?)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Since the magazines are too afraid to do a real head-to-head
- comparison of the three no-radials all-band HF verticals,
- why don't we try to put something together here? (The
- get-a-beam and get-a-real-radial-vertical comments would
- be unwelcome; the purpose would be to compare these three
- space-compromise antennas.) Anyone who has had experience
- with 1) the GAP Titan, a brand new no-radial 80-10 offering,
- or its mini-radialed cousin, the GAP Challenger, 2) the
- finally-shipping MFJ 10-band Model 1798, or 3) the 40-10
- meter no-radial trap vertical, the Cushcraft R-7, please
- forward your comments. I'll post a comprehensive summary.
-
- Thanks.
-
- Randy Padawer
- WA4FJF
- ap451@yfn.ysu.edu
- --
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
- Randy Padawer, P.O. Box 1167, Knoxville, TN 37901-1167 U.S.of A
- Internet: ap451@yfn.ysu.edu America Online: GwRepRandy
- Telephone: (615) 637-7263 Ham Radio op: WA4FJF & a groovy guy.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 19:11:34 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
- Subject: Hallicrafters SX-28?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <JNG.94Jun3175507@ravel.sli.com> jng@sli.com (Mike Gilbert) writes:
- >
- >I've come into possession of an antique Hallicrafters SX-28 "Super Skyrider"
- >receiver. Not being a ham, I'm looking for advice on what to do with it.
- >
- >
- >I don't know exactly when it was manufactured, but the manual (which includes
- >full schematics) is dated November 1, 1943. The front cover says "frequency
- >range - .55 to 43. megacycles (!)".
-
- Oh no! Of all people Hallicrafters should have know better than to say
- `megacycles' instead of `megacycles per second'. They must have been some second
- rate company. No wonder they went out of business; probably all you Mc/s
- people boycotted them in protest.
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Jun 94 21:45:13 GMT
- From: agate!usenet.hana.nm.kr!overload.lbl.gov!dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!w1gsl@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: Mass, RI and NH Field Day QTHs Wanted
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi Everybody 8 June 1994
-
- I know this is late but I have just returned from a few weeks of
- vacation. Lets give it a try to get a full list, since I already
- have a few requests to see an article in the Globe similar to the
- one W1BG and I have run the last two years. At least you all
- should have your sites confirmed by now :-)
-
- ****************************************************************
-
- The firm absolute deadline for me having your info is Tuesday
- June 14th at 1PM.
-
- ****************************************************************
-
- Subject Field Day Publicity
-
- Send me your FD QTH
-
- I am working at getting an article on Field Day and Ham Radio in
- general published in the Boston Globe. The draft is close to
- done and I think there is a good chance to get it in the Sunday
- Globe the week before FD. The article invites the reader to
- visit the local club operation, I hope to have a box after the
- article listing FD sites thruout the area. If you would like
- visitors please send me the club name, field site and town.
- We also need a contact person and phone number for public information.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^
- I will try to fit in as many as we can.
-
- I think clubs from NH EMA and RI would be appropriate.
-
- Remember NO Guarantees; there is only a good chance the article
- will get published and I have no idea how many clubs will fit if
- they do take it :-(
-
- 73 Steve F
- W1GSL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Jun 94 21:35:59 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!iat.holonet.net!vectorbd!jpll@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: Singapore HAM Laws?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Nick Stefanisko (stefanis@ptp.hp.com) wrote:
- : Newbee alert!! This is my first time posting here.
-
- : I'm in Singapore right now. And I was wondering, the next time I'm
- : here, should I bring my radio?
-
- I'm pretty sure that vhf/uhf is pretty much banned. Spectrum is pretty
- tight there and they don't allow that stuff. HF is real stringent there
- too with a lengthy/complex license requirement.
-
- I've spent 5 months there over the last few years. Knew a few local hams
- (Americans). Check at the ham stores in Sim Lim Square and Tower for more
- info.
-
-
- --
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- -Jim Lill- Vector Board BBS
- jpll@vectorbd.com 716-544-1863/2645
- wa2zkd@wb2psi.#wny.ny.usa.na GEnie: ZKD
-
- ------------------------------
-
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